QSR1836/2/5/5

Depositions and examination - James Grizzle

17 March 1836

From: 1836 To: 1836

Joseph Keeling of Luton, copper smith – on Wednesday morning 16 March William Hawkes told him that his mother had lost an oval copper boiler which would hold about 1 ½ pails full, and asked him to detain it if was brought to him. At about 10am Grizzle brought him a quantity of copper, which he found had been an oval shaped boiler answering that description. He sent up to inform Mrs Hawkes. Grizzle said he had bought it at Leagrave. He then sent out for some change merely to keep Grizzle waiting until Mr Hawkes came down. He invited the old man into his workshop until he got the change, but Grizzle did not follow him and went away. He followed Grizzle and saw him talking to a boy a little way down the street. He beckoned to Wright the street keeper whom he saw in the street. They followed them and caught them in a back lane and took them into custody. James Grizzle – has nothing to say. Susannah Hawkes, wife of Thomas Hawkes of Luton, bricklayer – last Tuesday at dinner time, about 12 o’clock she took her dinner out of a copper boiler and set the boiler out in the yard at the back of the house. It was still there late in the afternoon. On Wednesday morning she missed the boiler and told her son it was gone. At about 11am Mr Keeling sent to tell her that a man and boy had offered a copper boiler for sale. When her son came home to dinner she sent him down to Mr Keeling’s. She has no doubt the copper produced had been her boiler. Some dumplings had been boiled in it for dinner and pieces of the dumplings … [ends abruptly] William Hawkes of Luton, carpenter – on Wednesday morning his mother told him the copper boiler was missing. He went to Mr Keeling and asked if anybody had offered one for sale. Keeling promised to send word if anyone did so. When he went home to dinner his mother told him Mr Keeling had sent to say that an elderly man had been to him and offered him a boiler for sale. His mother sent him down to see it. The boiler was broken up. He saw some bits of dumplings sticking to the inside of the pieces of copper and has not doubt it was his father’s copper.

item

Grizzle, James,
Keeling, Joseph,
Hawkes, Susannah,
Hawkes, Thomas,
Hawkes, William

LUTON, stealing, copper, household goods, coppersmith, bricklayer, carpenter